The EXIT layer of skin may be something else entirely, and it is the exit layer that accounts for the claim of 4″ of penetration. Hydra Shok was one of the first great hollowpoints. I don’t know how far they would have gone; I had two 16″ blocks set up, and they overpenetrated both of them and were lost. If you're really curious, drop a note to somebody like Speer or Hornady for … I use equivalent powered Federal American Eagle FMJ rounds for practice which pretty much match the recoil of the HST’s, and in tests for accuracy between the two types, it’s very close, so much cheaper to practice with the FMJ’s, and occasionally shoot the HST’s for confirmation. FEDERAL PREMIUM- 9MM HST 147GR JHP … New From Winchester Ammunition: Expedition Big Game Long Range Ammo in Three Additional Calibers, https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k0515AxzA5c. 43 reviews Reviews. I have my notes from the mid-90s, and the unexpanded bullets. “anyone know of a .45 pocket gun? Options. Thank you; new information. http://berettaforum.net/vb/showthread.php?t=110848. These tests are a commonly accepted and repeatable. 147gr+P in 9mm for my G26 and G43, and 180+P in .40SW for my Browning Pro40. Categories. So while I respect to the venerable design, I also note that not only has Hydra Shok’s parent company surpassed it, but the gun market has experienced a significant shift, too — today’s pocket nines (like the Shield and P938) are … For the 9mm, I was curious about the HST working in a sometimes inhospitable environment: the Browning Hi Power. They may not even make it past a rib. I’ve even referred folks to tests like yours and Tnoutdoors. Not sure from when you came, but handgun 9mm-.45 cal FMJs are universally poor self defense rounds against human beings. Min expansion: 0.393″, 0.386″. I’ve found more reliable 115 and 124-grain options from the 3″ 9mm pistol, than I have found reliable 147-grainers. But given the track record of other 9mm in the short barrel, I was prepared for less than perfect results and I was pleasantly surprised. Would anyone want to be hit by one? Premium Rimfire Varmint-Predator; American Eagle; Champion; Federal Small Game & Target; Gold Medal; Varmint & Predator. You may have to shop for pants that can accomodate it, but the .45 ACP Springfield XD-S has frequently ridden in my front pocket. Bear in mind that this is also the IWBA four layers of denim standard, not the FBI heavy clothing. As several people have said shot placement is the most critical thing. You should read the FBI study on the matter, it basically shows that overpentration, stopping power, and the benefits of expansion are dangerous myths. “Oh, it put me in the hospital for a couple days and I had about six months of recovery time but stoping? Some have been … er… disappointing. • .380 Auto 85 Grain Punch JHP | 1,000 FPS vc – 980 fps (90 grain) • .38 Special +P 120 Grain Punch JHP | 1,070 FPS vc – 900 fps (125 grain, +P) • 9mm Luger 124 Grain Punch JHP | 1,150 FPS vc – 1,165 fps • .40 S&W 165 Grain Punch JHP | 1,130 FPS vc – 1,090 fps • .45 Auto 230 Grain Punch JHP | 890 FPS vc – 830 fps I also do not understand the ballistics gel testing. When you are selecting self-defense ammo, it is important to find a hollow … Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Out of stock. …your endorsement of HST has severely impacted my ability to procure it. http://goo.gl/Mw54uT. The hard part is being able to do that in heavy clothing as well. . 9mm Luger. Curtis – Rule number 4 and center mass. Not even close. Obviously for any given caliber and barrel length, the heavier bullets will travel slower than lighter bullets but there is a trade off in energy between heavy+slow and light+fast. The projectile itself is designed to pass through a barrier without the hollow point becoming plugged with material. They will arrive tomorrow. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 1) Those who endorse the “light and fast” theory, in which “energy transfer” and “stopping power” and “hydrostatic shock” are frequently brought out as arguments in their favor. Not even close. You can’t beat that price. So while I respect to the venerable design, I also note that not only has Hydra Shok’s parent company surpassed it, but the gun market has experienced a significant shift, too — today’s pocket nines (like the Shield and P938) are everywhere. 40 S&W. 22 Magnum. 45 ACP.45 Colt. I’ve got these in one of my p226 mags cuz they were sold out of all other defensive ammo. It’s just that there are improved rounds in every aspect. It’s a legendary design that has endured since 1988 — that’s 27 years of continuously being on the market. Regarding the 12″ requirement — why did the experts in the field set the bare minimum to 12″, when many bodies aren’t even 9″ wide? It is quite probably the best possible load and it’s been very well documented. If the bullet goes deeper than 18″ in gel, then it in all likelihood would overpenetrate a body (most especially if an intervening arm wasn’t encountered). Notify me when this product is in stock . The evidence (including StB’s own tests) is pretty strong that they are among the best designs out there now, so I figure why not give myself every advantage. Why not just go straight to hardcast lead? Premium Upland; Federal Target; Federal Upland-Waterfowl; HEAVYWEIGHT® TSS. So — can the Hydra Shok still run with the best, even when fired from today’s 3″-barreled pistol? Oh, I’m not concerned about full size 45s. Do you really need the full penetration ability of an FMJ? To say that it’s a well respected load in service pistol length barrels is a bit of an understatement. I don’t think they lasted an hour. What’s your choice for home defense, .50BMG? Looked at the XDS and it felt like something that would really be a drag carrying all day. It's Federal Season. A JHP or an FMJ round can both do a number on somebody when they catch it in the face. Federal Premium uses the 124 grain JHP bullet, brass cases with nickel plating, non-corrosive Boxer primers, and the +P powder charge, making these rounds some of the most widely used on the market. No way — FMJ only for those. I like the Hornady Critical lineup and carried them the last several years, until the Federals started beating them on price. Quite a bit of misinformation is handed out here. You just lost all your penetration. Go to previous image Go to next image. The lightweight projectile is frequently combined with some sort of fragmenting or frangible aspect to “maximize energy transfer” or “increase stopping power.”. If you have any questions, you may email him at [email protected]. >> I consider all hollow points … to be less lethal ammunition. Rimfire. 12″ penetration minimum standard DOES NOT include bones, only soft tissue. First thing people really need to understand is that penetration through gel is NOT the same as penetration through a body. Would you select armor-piercing rounds if still legal for use on unarmored targets? My wife carries Winchester PDX 1 124 +P in her Nano. Product details . This won’t completely answer your question, but keep in mind that one of the goals of defense bullets is to avoid over-penetration, i.e. Hmmm….not many people around here wear “thick denim,” especially in summer. IF it does that, the person hit is guaranteed to stop (immediately, in the case of hitting the upper spine or brain stem; fairly rapidly in the case of hitting the vital circulatory organs, although it still may take a good 10-15 seconds). The summary here is quite simple — whatever benefits the Hydra Shok may have exhibited in its day, it doesn’t compete against the best modern defensive ammo. From longer barrels the ammo can get up to adequate speed so that it can perform properly, but from the shorter barrels it seems like the ammo doesn’t frequently get up to adequate speed in the first place before exiting the barrel. Ventura Munitions: http://bit.ly/1LKxNRP 147 grain 9mm +p and it only penetrated 4-5 inches, an inch short of striking anything vital. Even the GLOCK 26 (with its 3.5″ barrel) wasn’t introduced until 1995, a good seven years after Hydra Shok hit the shelves. So I reordered two more boxes. Have likewise seen the opposite…that those “better” ammos failed. I may sound as if I’m gushing a bit, but this is really the best set of results seen so far from a short barrel pistol. To say that it’s a well respected load in service pistol length barrels is a bit of an understatement. 7 and 9 or 8 and 10 Tungsten Super Shot. That said, gel does represent (quite accurately) the density of human muscle tissue, and a bullet shot into gel, and one shot into strictly soft muscle tissue, will penetrate to comparable depths. Which is why it’s simply absurd to go thinking that those “trocars” on a G2 RIP will “rip out all someone’s internal organs” or anything. You can read the full version here, complete with X-rays. Just google handgun stopping power and start reading all the articles stating that penetration is THE single most important factor. HST offers consistent expansion and optimum penetration for terminal performance. Thank you for the test, it was quite timely for me. Right, but having effective bullets matters to. The singular of anecdote is even more so. It seems when something new comes out, it’s always advertised as better and everyone has to get it. Min: 1,101 Hoppe’s No. Custom Field . But when it comes to the exit layer, that’s very different — when the skin can stretch out, then stretch it will, and that stretching can take up a lot of the bullet’s energy to overcome. The reason I use them is that, yes I expect some expansion and perhaps better stopping power, but I rationalize more that I prefer they stop in solid objects like walls vice penetrating into the next room or dwelling. Consider HST. Effective self-defense requires ammunition that provides consistent … ShootingTheBull tested the 9mm Federal HST in both the 124gr and 147gr in standard and +P which revealed that all four loads performed very similarly and excellently from a 3" barrel with ideal penetration and great wound channel and expansion performance in ballistic gel using FBI protocol testing standards. Five new offerings, including blended loads that combine No. Penetration was a little deep and expansion was somewhat more moderate. He is an avid firearm collector and competitor and lives with his family in Arizona. Do you happen to have a 5″ barrel 45 to use as a benchmark? Shoot until the threat is over. Federal Premium LE HST JHP 147 is manufactured by Federal Premium, an American ammunition manufacturer located in Minnesota. I’d be keen to see them through a short barrel too but if your self defense weapon is a full size 45 I would be confident carrying hydrashoks as long as they fed. They feed fine though. The FBI / barrier penetration specs of 12-18″ through calibrated gel, after penetrating common barriers such as denim, glass, wallboard, and sheet metal simulate common materials such as heavy clothing, automotive windshield, walls, and car doors. The unique design of this bullet actually forces open the lead petals during expansion to protect the copper petals behind them. The next generation in high performance duty ammunition. Awesome. Manufacturer. That is $0.699 each a round. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k0515AxzA5c, He also tested the 124gr 9mm I haven’t watched that one though. 7 and 9 or 8 and 10 Tungsten Super Shot. Bodies are made of a variety of tissues and densities and stretchiness and fluidity, gel is a largely single-density medium. This results in increased weight retention … Velocity was decent for a 3.1″ barrel. It was most always a “it looks nasty on the bench, so it oughta work!” was the habit of the market. But I experienced severe jacket separation issues, which would probably be solved by the “bonded” version. Skip to the end of the images gallery . The military uses FMJs – sometimes – because of illogical and antiquated requirements which are basically self-imposed (which I realize is an imperfect synopsis of the situation). Federal's Premium HST line of JHP ammunition offers massive expansion! Some new defense rounds are reducing the bullet weight beyond the norm which increases velocity. 9mm 124 grain ; 10 MM Auto. Federal’s own HST vastly outperforms Hydra Shok when used in a 3″ barrel. You shoot the bad guy, aiming straight for his heart, but he puts out his arm and your round strikes it first. Fancy bullets mean nothing if it won’t feed or doesn’t go “bang”. Rated 5 out of 5 by … More Views. than what I was shooting for breakin. Out of stock. I just bought her some back up Remington Golden Saber 124+P. Buy it at Ventura Munitions: Okay just watched the video. They have revealed weaknesses in older bullet designs as well as impact expansion and weight retention thresholds for various velocities. Add Review » dog said: "very good shells" Bob said: "One of the few places that had the 9 mm ammo that I've been trying to get for 3 months. 5.56x45mm NATO.270 … willing to learn.”. Federal Premium 9mm LE HST JHP Review; This model is the favorite ammunition among law enforcement agencies. Premium Upland; Federal Target; Federal Upland-Waterfowl; HEAVYWEIGHT® TSS. © COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Not sure why the others are not interested in a larger sample size. Quantity - 50 rounds per box Manufacturer - Federal Premium Bullet - 124 grain HST Jacketed Hollow Point (JHP) Casing - Boxer-primed nickel-plated brass . Critical Duty / Defense seem comparable. Sometimes oldies are goodies. 9mm 115gr FMJ Federal AE9DP 450rds + 9mm 124gr HST JHP Federal 50rds = 500rd Practice+Defense COMBO. Again, see the above — gel is not a body. Hollowpoints are a dangerous myth, supported not by science, but by marketing. 9mm - 124 Grain HST JHP - Federal Premium Law Enforcement - 50 Rounds. We have tested several 9mm defense loads from a 3.1″ S&W Shield and none of them have done very well. Federal 124 gr HST recovered from bare gel, Penetration: 14.9″, 16.0″ Keep up the good work. When lives hang in the balance, Federal Premium Personal Defense HST Handgun Ammunition has been proven to perform at its peak. This is most commonly seen in bodies where bullets are frequently found right below the skin on the opposite side of the body from the entry wound. Food for thought: Don’t over think this stuff. But that was 27 years ago, and while the Hydra Shok has soldiered on, there have also been other substantial designs introduced (including Federal’s own HST). That’s not unexpected, but it may be a factor in how the ammo performs from the short barrel. I haven’t tested the “+P” or “bonded” versions, but the regular versions… well, I did 124 and 147, and I’ll probably release that video next, just because so many people ask about Golden Sabers. New From Beretta: APX Striker-Fired Modular Pistol – Is This The Army’s New Sidearm? P9HST1S. Been to the morgue many times to see autopsies on people the “lab tests” and “conventional wisdom” of ammo suggest the ammo should not have worked. As Aerindel pointed out with his own experience (hardly unique), a typical JHP will have a tough time penetrating a major bone such as a femur or humerus — even after penetrating just one or two inches of soft tissue first. Personal Defense HST is available in 9mm (124-grain), .40 S&W (180) and .45 ACP (230), and the folks at Federal told us this menu will expand in the future- but right now they have their hands full meeting current demand (like everyone else in the ammo business). I am far from alone on this. Product Info; Reviews; Q&A; We are out of this … Some of these newer designs have been superb. Modern hollowpoints make a pretty big difference (disregard the guy below who bases his claims on a single personal anecdote and a study from 1989 when efficient hollowpoint designs did not exist). Skip to the beginning of the images gallery . The requirement that a JHP round perform well out of a 3″ barrel is a really tough nut to crack for an ammo manufacture. Hydra Shok was one of the first bullets introduced . SOMEBODY (don’t remember who) recently did a gel test on Winchester’s “Train and Defend” 9mm cartridges, 147 g out of a 3″ barrel and the “Defend” (JHP) expansion performance was both excellent and identical between denim and bare, and penetration was around 15″. Heck, up until this month, Hydra Shok has been Federal’s primary premium defensive offering for the .380 ACP when they announced HST. So when we tested Federal 9mm +P 124gr HST, I was unsure of what to expect. https://www.patreon.com/tfbtv, Andrew is a combat veteran of OEF and has performed hundreds of ballistic tests for his YouTube channel, The Chopping Block (https://www.youtube.com/user/chopinbloc). The Ranger also hits within an inch of my practice ammo at 7 yards in my .40s, so that’s also a big factor for me. The cop he shot in the back of the head with a 9mm from about 18 inches survived too. Those have 4″ and 3″ barrels respectively. Five new offerings, including blended loads that combine No. If someone wants elephant gun ammo tested, request that. Click here to subscribe. Burns clean and feeds reliably in both 45 ACP and 9MM. 9 Gun Bore Cleaner: A favorite since 1903 For 2016, the Federal Premium HST Micro line has expanded to include a 150-grain 9mm Luger load. Description Description. You are insane if you seriously believe that. Thus, at typical handgun velocities, the skin offers insignificant bullet penetration barrier and that has nothing to do with the skin being backed by muscle or bone. I only wish I could prove it." 1,136 I simply alternate rounds in the mags of my EDC between the Hydra Shoks, and the +P Critical defense. I’ve fielded many requests to test Hydra Shok. Those folks are frequently referred to as the “slow and heavy” camp, since heavier bullets carry more momentum and (generally) penetrate deeper. I would have gone with HSTs if they’d had. What’s your take on the Golden saber? It’s the standard personal defense ammo I carry. I'd expect today's premium 9mm ammo to do well for expansion - but if you're going to carry something that's not between 115 and 125 grains, I'd want to shoot a bunch of it to make sure it cycles. Overview. 223 Remington. Never mind short barrels. Date published: 2017-05-04. 9MM 124gr HST’s can be had in 50 counts for $26-$29 If you shop around. If one looks at the human body, there is an even money chance the round will hit bone and that only testing in soft tissue simulations yields only half the answers. When they expand and penetrate deep enough, they’re wonderful. How I can I say this with such certainty? If the answer is no, it’s doing its job. Genuinely interested…as I am in real-world shootings as data in general. Min expansion: 0.414″, 0.405″. Doesn’t matter how good the ammo is if it won’t chamber…. 124gr HST recovered from ballistic gel after passing through four layers of denim, Penetration: 19.1″, 19.4″ Since you are too challenged to google “tnoutdoors9 hydrashok 45”, Here you go The FBI report from 1987 and the new report on the 9mm lay out their attitude quite clearly: “stopping power” and handgun-introduced “hydrostatic shock” are myths, there are no “magic bullets”, and the goal for handgun ammo remains: its job is to penetrate deep enough and hit hard enough to destroy the vital organs or CNS (spine/brain stem). Sometimes I have to just tell myself, “it’s a bullet, and it can be lethal”. Many bullets can produce decent results in bare gel, even at short barrel velocities. Absolutely perfect, made up my mind for me as fodder for my new LC9, though the test was another gun, barrel length should be the kicker. Hydrashoks stunk in the 90’s too– for exactly the same reasons described here. … And sometimes, oldies are okay, but they’re a lot better in your memory than they are in reality. I feel I need to mention that I carry a Glock 19. When I bought my bulk ammo a couple weeks ago, I decided to throw in a box of FPHS. So when we tested Federal 9mm +P 124gr HST, I was unsure of what to expect. 9mm. Having been on the receiving end of a 9mm 115g RN-FMJ I can tell you, that in my now experienced opinion, it definitely is not something I would like to experience twice. Product Reviews . Tweet. Category: AMMO Product ID: 5578. The opinions of every expert and professional not enough for you? I’ve said to people that if they can’t find better modern ammo (and some of these modern JHP rounds are rather difficult to find here in WY), go with Hydra-Shoks – mostly because they were the first JHP bullet that was a significant improvement over ball ammo, especially in 9×19. No other type of hit is guaranteed to bring a fight to a close, from any handgun, using any type of ammo. Federal 9mm Luger 124 gr Hydra-Shok JHP Personal Defense 20/Box In Stock Brand: Federal; Item Number: P9HS1; Type: Self Defense; Quantity: 20 Rounds ; Federal 9mm 147 gr HST Jacketed Hollow Point Personal Defense 20/box In Stock Brand: Federal; Item Number: P9HST2S; Type: Self Defense; Quantity: 20 Rounds; Federal 9mm 124 gr Jacketed Hollow Point Punch 20/Box In Stock Brand: Federal… (Even a commander length has a 4.25″ barrel.) I then used the remaining room in the block to fire two bullets into bare gel. Retained weight: 122.9gr, 123.9gr As such, a bullet punches right through it, just as it would through the underlying tissue. If a bullet can penetrate at least 12″ of gel, then it in all likelihood will have sufficient power to penetrate an intervening arm (including the heavy bones in the forearm) and still be able to reach and damage vital organs. Is 60+ inches of penetration enough to penetrate the predatory grizzly bears disguised as humans in your neighborhood? I have to say, reliable feeding matters a lot. Some calibers can’t. Skin has been shown to be worth 4″ of ballistic jel Now imagine a round with 12″ of gel penetration. The size may be manageable, but weight remains a serious consideration. If you can’t use an expanding bullet, I would think the Lehigh Defense Xtreme Penetrator would be enough penetration for anyone in 9mm to use against unarmed humans, yet with superior wounding (especially in the vital zone) compared to FMJ—but it sounds like you ought to be using a rifle of at least 5.56mm M855A1 for the Terminators you’re arming for. All my testing was conducted with standard, non +P loads. A lot of us older guys like the beefier cartridge and would love to see how this ammo stacks up in our favorite defensive 45s. Rimfire. Golden Sabers have been pretty unimpressive in the testing I’ve done. Details. The STB tests are named by calibre, and the set-up always reveals the actual firearm for the ammo test/quest. tnoutdoors9 on YouTube ran 45ACP 230gr hydrashok from a 1911 into an FBI spec gel block with 4 layers of denim and got some pretty impressive results. I consider HST and Ranger to be the best stuff out there, so it’s what I load my mags with. A BB @ 590 fps WILL penetrate skin AND about 3.5″ of muscle tissue — hence 10% ordnance gel calibration standard. JHP . This round has a pre-skived bullet tip which causes the bullet to expand into large petals that cause a large permanent wound cavity. Shop Now. as a direct result of the FBI’s landmark 1987 Wound Ballistics Conference, which defined the standards for how hollowpoint ammo is designed to perform, and those standards are still the prevailing guidelines that govern how modern ammo is developed. 2) Those who reject the notions of “energy transfer” or “hydrostatic shock” or “stopping power”, and who instead focus on the damage the bullet does to the body in the ways that are proven to be the only reliable means of guaranteeing bringing a gunfight to as rapid a close as possible. http://shootingthebull.net/blog/final-results-of-the-380-acp-ammo-quest/. But not all things are that easy to summarize. Do you have a link to the YouTube video you mentioned? Specifications . They also feed very reliably in my Glocks, and can be found for .50 a round in the 50 ct LE boxes if you shop around online. Rating * Name Email * Review Subject * Comments * OUT OF STOCK Add to Cart. 1,101 But are hollow point rounds really that much better for stopping a human threat than say a similar grain RN-FMJ? 380 Auto. Write a Review Write a Review × FEDERAL PREMIUM FEDERAL PREMIUM- 9MM HST 124GR JHP 20RD. If your gun has reliability issues with other types of premium ammunition it’s probably time to start shopping for a new gun. But expansion did occur and it was both reliable and uniform. It’s not that they’re bad, it’s just that the state of the art has advanced and there are better options out there. In bare gel, the figures and appearance of the bullet and the wound track are all textbook. And I’ve even carried a Glock 30SF there, when the pocket has accomodated it. In 9mm, it reliably expands to around 0.6″ – this is about 65% larger than the original bullet radius, and translates to a correspondingly larger permanent wound cavity (and note that the affected surface, and hence volume, is radius squared). I never do understand why test results for a pocket pistol (anyone know of a .45 pocket gun? The major manufacturers generally make their ammo to conform to the FBI and IWBA guidelines, which generally means a bullet that penetrates more than 12″ deep, using any remaining energy to expand as large as possible, and frequently employing heavy-for-caliber bullets. There are some out there, but not many. Then get a hollow point round with less expansion that still penetrates more than that, because hollow points are available that still penetrate beyond 18″. You’re not going to work your way through 9mm barrel lengths in 1/16th inch increments with each ammo? Vincent Hancock’s made his competitive shooting dreams a reality—twice—and he’s looking to do it … Hollow points won't plug while passing through a variety of barriers. If people are more comfortable with hydra-shoks, more power to them. So there are a huge number of extremely reliable and extremely capable rounds out there that are superior to hydroshock in many respects beyond just being as reliable. The reason why is that the Hydra-Shoks were among the first ammo really tested against a new standard for expansion performance. Max expansion: 0.635″, 0.675″ The white box ammo uses brass cases instead of the sexy nickel-plated brass. The “light and fast” camp usually is endorsed by the littler, “boutique”, or “exotic” ammo manufacturers — G2 Research’s RIP, Liberty, DRT, Extreme Shock, RBCD, MagSafe, etc. Manufacturer - Federal Bullet - 147 Grain HST Case - Nickel Plated Brass Use - Personal Defense Quantity - 20 Rounds Per Box [split] The next generation in high performance duty ammunition, the HST offers consistent expansion and optimum penetration for terminal performance all done by Federals line of Person Defense a They could simply go to a faster-burning powder, but that has limitations and liabilities. A magazine of options will provide. . Five new offerings, including blended loads that combine No. You may as well have aimed for an arm for all the ‘stopping’ your doing. FBI maximum of 18″ of ballistic gel penetration not enough for you? I’d really love to see a series like this in 45ACP. A Glock 21 or full size 1911 has more than enough barrel length to get the most out of the round. For every reason, now more than ever, choose Federal Premium—Your Partner In Protection. When it comes to skin, the entrance layer is usually backed by something harder — muscle or bone — and thus cannot stretch. If a gun can’t reliably operate under ideal conditions with almost every type of common premium ammunition then I don’t trust it to act reliably with any ammunition under adverse conditions. Spread: 44. Product details . please lower your standards so people will go buy some other crap. I feel your pain – only 2 boxes of HST left, but I’ve got dozens of boxes of Ranger. Federal 9mm Ammo - 50 Rounds of 124 Grain JHP Ammunition. 22 Short. I paid $24.95 for a 50 round box. And the ammo that has been demonstrated to be able to do that is generally the “slow and heavy” type. This round is standard pressure, NOT +P. Admittedly, it will take quite a bit to move me off the 938…but for home use, it may be an altogether different consideration. (Google tends to personalize search results based on your search history.) Not exactly what I would call a top performance indicator. It doesn't get any better than this 9mm 124 grain HST Jacketed Hollow Point by Federal . Max: 1,145 Note – just about all the ammo tests done by other than STB are restricted to a single round. Learn More About Self-Defense Watch Video. I consider all hollow points and Hydrashok specifically to be less lethal ammunition. Will go to LGS and shoot one to see if .45 in such a small gun is also more troublesome than a 938 when it comes to shot replacement/follow-up. Sometimes oldies are moldy and rotten. That’s something that’s been done for decades, and disproven over and over, but … big numbers sell, and so manufacturers keep doing it. 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